Fourth Spirit - A Dota 2 Podcast (Dota)

On this week's Theorycraft Thursday Proud and Ursi are going over the trends in their last week in dota, like losing to 4 cores, the state of slark (spoiler: he's still bad), maelstrom, and other reactions to 7.14 changes! For our segment this week we're covering why you should be pushing side lanes as a support (or as a core, but we focus on the support angle) to open up the map, force enemy TPs, mess up enemy coordination, build your own farm, and much more! We're playing Clinkz in the mid lane and Silencer as a support for this week's hero combo as well!

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Category:Dota -- posted at: 1:55am EDT

On this week's Teach Me Tuesday Ursi & Beedub are going over their highlights and lowlights of the new patch, 7.14, including the mango sale, the potential resurgence of duo lanes, various hero changes, and more! The n we're covering a whole bunch of viewer questions with topics such as how to deal with aggro duo lanes, safe hero picks, specific hard counter picks to look for for free wins, jungling & how to fix it in its current iteration, how to convince people to do things like make proper item choices both in solo queue and in your stacks, and much more!

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Category:Dota -- posted at: 1:56pm EDT

On this week's Theorycraft Thursday Proud and Ursi are talking about their recent battlecup win, Proud's storied love affair with Drow, Ursi's similarly storied but slightly more sallacious love affair with Kunkka, how to win your own Battlecup, learning to use smokes effectively, and more! For our segment we're examining the general things to keep in mind regarding how best to punish poor play from your opponents, and play games where you know you're the highest mmr and need to take advantage of that by outmaneuvering your enemies, punishing weak enemy drafts that allow you to be greedy, and more! For our hero combo we're talking about Venge and Drow and how to deal with a super lost safelane in the mid-game!

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Category:Dota -- posted at: 4:22am EDT

On this week's episode of Teach Me Tuesday, Proud & Beedub look at writing a Dota 2 priority list to help out in those moments where you're not sure what to do. They also discuss what heroes are good against Axe, how to get your Dota mojo back, whether life steal is worth it, Dota cosmetics, action films, candied apples, bad segues, fighting cats and more!

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Category:Dota -- posted at: 1:17am EDT

On this week's episode of Theorycraft Thursday Proud and Ursi are talking all about Ursi's boy Kunkka, all the different available builds for him, and running him with Proud's Drow Ranger, a recently trending hero, and Skrunk's Visage (mid)! We're also covering the incredible utility aspect of Blink Dagger as a farming tool to amp up core farming, not just as a fighting item! All this and more on today's show!

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Category:Dota -- posted at: 4:03am EDT

On this week's Teach Me Tuesday Ursi and Beedub are covering how best to scale as a support, when to try to scale into a full core vs. when to opt for more supporty/utility items using Kunkka and Silencer as examples. For our questions we're covering how horribly Ursi threw this 1 terrorblade game, strategizing around buybacks (when to save for them, when not to, etc.), how best to utilize tomes, who Rod of Atos is core on and who it's optional on, and much more!

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Category:Dota -- posted at: 5:04am EDT

On this week's Theorycraft Thursday Proud and Ursi are exploring the wonderful world of dagon gaming in earnest, dispelling the memey nature around this underrated item! For our Week in Dota segment we're covering Ursi's renewed losing streak (briefly, I promise), his mistakes attempting to play Ember Spirit as though that hero is anything other than awful, and his renewed love of Kunkka; Proud is winning more dota, as per usual, with some excellent Winter Wyvern play! We're running a Dagon-based team comp with a stack this week, hopefully it does well!
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Category:Dota -- posted at: 12:48am EDT

On today's Teach Me Tuesday, Proud & Beedub (finally) discuss Bee's first ever rapier game! They also talk some Monkey King specifics, Dagon on supports like Jakiro, Fourth Spirit merch & a bit about Gundam. Listener questions this week are about double creep waves, dealing with losing lanes, heroes that can mid & safelane successfully and when to go S&Y over Manta.

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Category:Dota -- posted at: 3:05am EDT

On this week's episode of Theorycraft Thursday Proud and Ursi are doing a deep dive into the dynamics of how safelane equilibrium works from the perspective of everyone involved: safelane carries, safelane supports, and offlaners! We're also chatting about Ursi's losing streak, all the ins and outs of pulling (and interrupting pulls as the offlaner), playing trilane safelane vs. aggro trilanes, support starting items, and more! The hero combo for this week is Underlord offlane with 4 Slardar, an excellent pairing for a well-rounded team comp!

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Category:Dota -- posted at: 3:34am EDT

On this week's Teach Me Tuesday Beedub is out sick so Ursi is joined by LeafyPeachy from Desoladies & Beast Coast to talk about all things dota! We're chatting about the absurd amount of pro games going on at any given time, the value (or lack of value) low mmr smurfs provide, how to deal with Techies players, Breath of the Wild, Ursi's crippling fear of birds, magical damage builds vs. physical damage builds on heroes like Shadow Fiend or Mirana, and plenty more!
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Category:Dota -- posted at: 3:26pm EDT

Proud and Ursi are covering each and every change from 7.12 this week in place of Theorycraft Thursday! Is CM swole now? Do we still hate Undying? Why is every change +/- 30 mana? Let's all find out what will ruin our pubs and what to spam this patch!

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Category:Dota -- posted at: 5:05am EDT

On this week's Theorycraft Thursday Proud and Ursi are covering all the top picks in each position for you to round out your battlecup team this weekend! Ursi's on a losing streak but is fixing it by playing a bunch of Shadow Fiend so we're going into why SF is so strong at the moment and Proud is playing around with the new Meteor Hammer Arc Warden build! ALl this and more on this week's show!

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Category:Dota -- posted at: 4:20am EDT

On this week's Teach Me Tuesday a vacation-inspired Beedub is joined by Ursi to talk extensively about Ancient Apparition, Ursi's current love and Bee's newfound interest! Bee is in Greece on vacation (holiday) so we're chatting a bit about hero lore before delving into the ins-and-outs of playing AA as a 5: when to pick him, when not to pick him, how greedy to be, how to best use his ult, and more! For the listener questions this week we're covering zoning offlaners (or admitting you cannot zone them) as a support and how to deal with a variety of different zoning-related scenarios that commonly pop up, we're also gonna talk about the virtue & reasoning for double Null or double Wraith Band on mid laners! Also, we learn about the history of Daylight Savings time, for some weird reason.

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Category:Dota -- posted at: 1:40am EDT

Description: On this week's episode of Theorycraft Thursdays your hosts Proud and Ursi are chatting all about their experiences in the last week of dota playing with random pro players, Ursi losing mid to Puck over and over, Proud enjoying Lifestealer, and more! We're also getting into some of the pros and cons of Dota Plus as well as Proud's theory behind why playing support is so effective at climbing in ranked! For the hero combo this week Proud is playing Sven, a somewhat passed-over hero who is still strong, and Ursi's playing everyone's favorite punching bag, Crystal Maiden!

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Category:Dota -- posted at: 3:39am EDT

ugh let me sleep

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Category:Dota -- posted at: 4:45am EDT

Update: fixed it, team. full epizode is there now


On today's episode of Theorycraft Thursday Proud & Ursi are getting into their last 2 weeks in dota including pro players Proud runs into, Ursi's naming-based superstitions, and more! For our segment this week we're chatting about what to take into consideration when you're picking heroes in each of the 5 roles/positions in both the early stages of pick phase and the later pick phases! As our combo this week we're playing mid Lina with safelane Wraith King, taking full advantage of the skeleton talents that got buffed in 7.10!

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Category:Dota -- posted at: 1:24am EDT

On today's show Ursi and special guest Migs are making their best attempt at manning the ship while captain Beedub is dead in the water without internet! We're focusing on 7.10 changes, carry rotations around the 8-12 minute mark, what makes a good support vs. a bad support, and more before breaking into listener questions like 'when to skip big items?', 'how to get reinvigorated to enjoy dota again after a break?', and our opinions on the support vs. core balance trends!

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Category:Dota -- posted at: 3:02am EDT

proud and bee talk about terrorblade who is very good right now boy howdy is he good

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Category:Dota -- posted at: 8:25pm EDT

On today's Teach Me Tuesday, Proud lays down the knowledge on how to lane, itemize & fight as Juggerbean and Bee is embarrassed at her Lifestealer build. Listener questions are answered about maintaining distance from gap-closers in team fights, transformative items for supports, & what lifesteal items actually do!

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Category:Dota -- posted at: 1:05pm EDT

Ursi and Proud are going about their regular business this week talking about their week in Dota, Ursi's Pangolier adventures, Proud's wild recent games, Ursi learning how to properly play Terrorblade and more before delving into this week's segment on swapping lanes pre-game for advantageous matchups prompted by a game which Ursi played Tidehunter mid as a Broodmother mid counter! For this week's combo Ursi is going back to one of his old favorites who he hasn't been playing much, Disruptor, and Proud is playing around with a hot new Radiance + Solar Crest Lifestealer build!

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Category:Dota -- posted at: 1:43am EDT

In this week's Teach Me Tuesday Bee and Ursi are going over the various support buffs and changes that came along with the new 7.09 patch and their games testing out some new things in the patch before delving into listener questions like "how to relax after you've been tilted in a game", "how best to 5 man and when to stop 5 manning", and more!

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Category:Dota -- posted at: 8:54pm EDT

On this week's Theorycraft Thursday Proud and Ursi are delving deep into Proud's love of Vengeful Spirit support that has led hum to a huge win streak in solo ranked! Ursi is chatting about his hatred of Razor, dislike of playing safelane, and his long win streak that has since faded into a whole lot of losses. For the combo Proud is playing Venge, of course, and Ursi is picking based on the game (Terrorblade and OD) and we all get to learn about why everyone hates Lion, that ugly mess of a hero.

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Category:Dota -- posted at: 12:31am EDT

In today's Teach Me Tuesday, Bee and Proud discuss farming and fighting in pubs, Luna, Reflection, and answer some listener questions along the way. Bee may have been body snatched also but I think it's fine.

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Category:Dota -- posted at: 10:58pm EDT

On this week's Theory Craft Thursday Skrunk joins Proud and Ursi to chat about their 7.08 winning streaks! We're covering all kinds of different heroes from Lion to Alchemist support and other heroes that got some notable changes in 7.08. For our game we ended up playing offlane Tiny, safelane PA, and roaming Tusk (so that Ursi can redeem himself after last week) and talked about what, exactly, makes up a good team comp. All this and more on today's episode!

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Category:Dota -- posted at: 2:03am EDT

On this week's Teach Me Tuesday, Ursi and Beedub are chatting about their experience with the new patch 7.08, Ursi's long-standing love of Rubick, Bee's newfound tryst with Rubick, which types of heroes are best to first-pick in various roles when in pubs, how to effectively balance a draft between being reactionary but not too reactionary, and much more!

Stay tuned for a Patreon-exclusive episode discussing the merits and demerits of run-on sentences and comma splices!*





* No.

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I'm very tired cause I put off mixing this but this is a patch review of 7.08 where I got really loud at Ursi and I'm sorry please know I love him very much and have sent him flowers even though he's dumb. 


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Category:Dota -- posted at: 4:24am EDT

In this week's Theorycraft Thursday Proud and Ursi are diagnosing Ursi's pub problems and figuring out just how, exactly, to actually win pub dota games! For this week's combo we're talking about roaming Tusk paired with Battlefury Troll Warlord
it's short but you can improve it lol  <--- I didn't improve it
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Category:Dota -- posted at: 4:55am EDT

On today's episode of Teach Me Tuesday, Proud & Bee talk about all the different types of disables in Dota 2 and what they do. Also, the infamous topic of base attack time is revisited as Proud takes another crack at explaining what it is and how it works.

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Category:Dota -- posted at: 11:49am EDT

On today's show Proud and Ursi are jumping into why suddenly everyone is building Battlefury on their safe-laners, why everyone should actually be building rapiers, Ursi's love hate relationship with Invoker at the moment, and more! For this week's combo we played Monkey King with a rapier build to illustrate the strength of rapiers and pair it with Oracle to try to keep the rapier in play as much as possible! A great rapier game Proud played recently can be found with match ID 3696259670!

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Category:Dota -- posted at: 12:06am EDT

On today's episode of Teach Me Tuesday Ursi & Bee focus on all the ins-and-outs of what makes a good support vs. a bad support, how to play support in a greedy fashion without costing your team, how to communicate as a support (and general communication opinions/tips), and more! Our questions for the episode pertained to supporting in slow games, aggro trilaning, and the relative values of playing ranked vs. playing unranked!

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Category:Dota -- posted at: 1:34pm EDT

On today's episode Proud and Ursi are joined by special guest Donnie from Pvgna to talk all about the best ways to learn from pro games and then how you can implement & apply what you've learned most effectively! For the combo this week, Proud is focusing on a new Radiance Ursa build that he's testing out and Ursi ends up playing Magnus as a reactionary pick to the game drafts! All this and more on today's show!

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Category:Dota -- posted at: 2:46am EDT

Proud and Bee discuss the goals and techniques of Phantom Assassin, Dragon Knight, Doom, and Shadow Shaman that give you that sweet sweet W. Listener questions include a conclusion on the Double Stout trend, whether anyone is allowed to jungle WK under any circumstance, and probably some other stuff.

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Category:Dota -- posted at: 12:51am EDT

On this episode of Theory Craft Thursday Proud and Ursi are talking all about their week in Dota, how to effectively mirror enemy support movements to create an advantage, how to establish tempo on an aggressive roaming support and force the enemy to mirror you, and more! Our combo for this week was a safelane Lycan using the Helm of the Dominator into Necronomicon 3 build paired with an offlane Beastmaster for wild strong push!
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Category:Dota -- posted at: 10:32pm EDT

On this episode of Teach Me Tuesday Ursi is joined by former teachling and current-special-guest Leafy Peachy to chat about a variety of different topics! Our focuses today include Spectre's itemization, talent choices on Spectre, how both Dark Willow and Pangolier have settled now that they've been released for a while, transformative items vs. reinforcing items on carries, how to improve the overall Dota community and maintain the longevity of the game, how to play Legion Commander in the midgame, the value of peoples' win rates on heroes as a judge of their skill, and more!

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Category:Dota -- posted at: 12:20pm EDT

On today's episode of Theorycraft Thursday your hosts Proud and Ursi are going in-depth on the new trend of pulling the enemy's initial minute-zero creep wave as the offlaner to build and maintain a strong lane advantage for you as the offlaner! We're also going to be playing Witch Doctor and Dragon Knight together and going into some of the advantages and disadvantages of running jack-of-all-trades supports like Witch Doctor and talking about what makes a good DK game vs. a weak DK game! All this and more on this week's Theorycraft Thursday!

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Category:Dota -- posted at: 11:07am EDT

On today's show Beedub and Ursi are working to improve their play for the upcoming 2018 year of Dota with their own new year's resolutions! We're also chatting all about how to play around detection as an invisible hero, what makes a good trilane composition, how to deal with aggressive duolanes as a safelane support, how much money spent countering an opponent is too much money, and much more on today's Teach Me Tuesday!

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Category:Dota -- posted at: 1:02am EDT

On today's episode of Theorycraft Thursday Proud embraces his inner math teacher and teaches us all about the geometry of team compositions in Dota; what makes a strong team shape versus a weak team shape, how certain heroes contribute to a team via their shapes, and why certain types of heroes synergize well with one another and make the entire team composition into a strong, winning shape! In the game we went in specifically to pick heroes to illustrate this concept and came out with Queen of Pain (played by QoP-hater Ursi) and Monkey King! All this and more on this week's TcT!

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Category:Dota -- posted at: 2:32am EDT

Bee attempts to maintain consciousness as Proud outlines Crystal Maiden's weaknesses and some other stuff probably, I don't know, I haven't listened to the whole thing yet...

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Category:Dota -- posted at: 1:32pm EDT

On today's episode of Theory Craft Thursday Proud and Ursi audit Ursi's last hitting segment from this week's Teach Me Tuesday and chat about their last week in Dota 2 before getting into a thorough analysis of Queen of Pain's excellent place as a mid in the current patch, QoP builds, and then play her paired with a Skywrath Mage support for this week's game!

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Category:Dota -- posted at: 1:55pm EDT

On today's show your host Beedub is joined by Ursi to get into the nitty-gritty about how best to roam and defining the different types of roamers who often are grouped together despite functioning very differently in the actual game! We also chatted about how valuable it is to memorize Dota minutia, study methods that may or may not be pointless, and answered a bunch of listener questions regarding BKBs, Jungling, Blink vs. Force, the virtues of picking tanky heroes, and more!

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Category:Dota -- posted at: 4:20am EDT

On this week's episode of Theory Craft Thursday your hosts Proud and Ursi cover how best to use Teleport Scrolls, their hatred of techies spammers, Ursi's weird love of Aeon Disk, Proud branching out his support pool, and more before they are driven to the edge of their wits after hours of attempting to playing this week's combo: Luna and Shadow Fiend.

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Category:Dota -- posted at: 2:08am EDT

Proud and Beedub answer some listener questions, discuss which heroes are good for new offlane players, talk about how to get out of a slump, and discuss possible new safelane carries for Beedub to experiment with. All this and more on this episode of Teach Me Tuesday!

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Category:Dota -- posted at: 2:14am EDT

On today's episode of Theory Craft Thursday Proud & Ursi delve into how best to set your priorities in team fights, how to best avoid panicking in hectic situations, Ursi's love of Soul Ring Shadow Fiend, and more before going into this week's combo: Shadow Demon and Morphling!

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Category:Dota -- posted at: 3:25am EDT

On today's episode of Teach Me Tuesday Ursi & Beedub explore Bee's experience calibrating and playing ranked for the first time before delving into the very robust but important topic of how to avoid dying in games of dota! We also cover why certain heroes like PA and AM are a scourge upon lower mmr pubs but a more manageable problem at higher mmrs, and how best to develop & grow as a team, how to be honest with your teammates, and why it's best to avoid playing with ringers on your team

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Category:Dota -- posted at: 10:31pm EDT

On this week's Theorycraft Thursday Proud and Ursi delve into how they've changed and adjusted their mindsets so that they can succeed in the new ranked season! Both of them are making some notable changes to great success so far (knock on wood) including the official Proud Method of Supporting™ and Ursi's newfound love of Elder Titan. For the combo this week Proud is playing Gyrocopter and Ursi is playing Elder Titan as two thirds of a trilane, lets see if you guys finally get to hear the winning transition song!

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Category:Dota -- posted at: 2:20am EDT

On this week's Teach Me Tuesday, Ursi and Beedub talk about the new ranked season system before going into all the ins-and-outs of how to play around invisibility; how best to use invisibility to your advantage, how best to counter invisibility, offensive counters vs. defensive counters, offensive play-making potential vs. defensive maneuvers, when to use dust vs. when to use sentries, the various power peaks of invisibility, and more! Also answering more listener questions. If you want to send in questions yourself you can DM any of the show hosts on Discord or you can send us an email to

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Category:Dota -- posted at: 8:48pm EDT

On this week's Theory Craft Thursday, Proud and Ursi go over the opening 5 minutes of a support in Dota 7.07, the new Ranked Match Making system, and go through a game with Wraith King and OD.

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Category:Dota -- posted at: 3:14am EDT